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Was Jesus elected God in 325 CE ?
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Asher Norman says:
- The idea of the Trinity was made up by the Catholic Church, a status Jesus was elected to at the Council of Nicea in 325 CE.
- This was done on the orders of the Emperor Constantine who wished to make Christianity the new state religion of the Roman Empire.
- This ‘son of god’ status being given to Jesus was a follow on from pagan ideas of ‘god men’ such as Mithras and Dionysus. In saying this Asher Norman is repeating the ideas of antichristian writers like Raymond Massey, Archarya S and Mike Licona and the producers of the film ‘Zeitgeist’. I have written a response to Zeitgeist.
Asher Norman repeats the claim of Dan Brown in the Da Vinci Code that it was the Roman Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea in 325 CE who gave Jesus the status of ‘God’. He says ‘Many early Christians known as Arians did not believe that Jesus was a deity. In the year 325 CE Emperor Constantine convened a church council at Nicea in Turkey and ordered the Gentile Bishops to decide the status of Jesus for his new state religion. At Nicea Jesus was ‘elected god’ by a vote of 218 to 2.’
This is quite a similar statement to the one found in Dan Brown’s novel. In the Da Vinci Code the leading character, Teabing, claims that at the Council of Nicea the Emperor Constantine led the bishops to declare Jesus as Son of God by a vote – ‘a relatively close vote at that’ (page 315). This was a new idea because ‘Until that moment in history Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet … a great and powerful man, but a man nonetheless, a mortal.’ In other words Christianity as we know it today was invented by Constantine who imposed the view of Jesus as a divine person on the church through the Council of Nicea.
Is this true?
Constantine.
Diocletian, the Roman Emperor from 284-305 was the last great persecutor of the Christians under the Roman Empire. The main period of persecution was from 303 -305 during which time there were many martyrs and much destruction of the property and books of Christians. The death of Diocletian led to the rise of Constantine who was proclaimed emperor in 306. Constantine was challenged by his rival Maxentius whom he defeated at the battle of Milovan Bridge in 312. At this point the Roman Empire was in danger of fragmenting. Constantine is reputed to have seen sign of cross at this battle and believed he conquered through the cross. So he took this as a sign that Christianity was the favoured religion which would unify the empire. He published the Edict of Milan in 313 formally ending Christian persecution and restoring confiscated church property to Christians.
Constantine wanted to use Christianity as a means of uniting the Roman Empire so he wanted the Christians to be united. He was not happy to find disagreements amongst Christians about issues of interpreting the teaching of the Bible and about who Jesus was. Constantine himself was not so much interested in the finer details of doctrine as in ending the strife that was caused by religious disagreements. This resulted in him supporting various sides of theological issues during the course of his life, depending on which side might help peace to prevail.
Arius and Athanasius.
Around this period a controversy had arisen amongst the Christians over the question of the divinity of Jesus. This centred on the teaching of Arius who was a bishop and lived in Libya from about 250 to 336. Arius’ position was certainly not the one put forward in Da Vinci Code – that Jesus was just a great and powerful man. Arius had a view of Jesus as the Saviour who came from heaven and used the Bible, not the Gnostic gospels, in his arguments. However he said that if Jesus is the ‘only begotten Son’ of the Father, there must have been a time when he was ‘begotten’, therefore He must have had a beginning. As a result there must have been a time when ‘he was not’, i.e. he was a created being. Arius argued that Jesus is not of ‘the same substance as the Father’ (i.e. that he is a kind of lesser god who takes second place to the Father).
Arius was opposed by Athanasias who argued that ‘If Christ were not truly God, then he could not bestow life upon the repentant and free them from sin and death.’ He showed from the scriptures and the witness of the early church fathers that Jesus is not a created being and exists from eternity being of ‘one substance’ with the Father.
Athanasius won the debate and the Council agreed to the following statement about the identity of Jesus in the Nicene Creed, which express a clear belief in Jesus as a divine person: ‘I believe in one God, the Father almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; he suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.’
In fact the Council of Nicea did not invent the idea of the divinity of Jesus. This was the claim of Jesus Himself (‘I and My Father are one’ John 10.30), which was taught by the Apostles in the New Testament and affirmed by a huge number of writings of early Christians which predate the Council of Nicea (AD 325) by up to two hundred years. It is true that the issue of Jesus’ divinity was a central issue at the Council of Nicea in order to settle the debate raised by Arius’ teaching which was opposed by Athanasius.
Constantine did not take part in this debate nor did he pressure the bishops as to how they should decide on this issue. At the time he accepted the vote deciding for Athanasius’ view of the divinity of Jesus but in later years he sided with Arius and his followers against Athanasius whom he banished in 336 AD.
Church and State after Constantine.
There were certainly negative consequences for Biblical Christianity in Constantine’s involvement. He began process of unifying church and state which led the way to the established Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and the church’s compromise of the truth of the Gospel in return for political power. He encouraged the process already at work of cutting Christianity away from its Jewish roots, separating Easter from Passover and fixing Sunday as the day of worship. He centralised power in Constantinople (modern Istanbul) in 330 leading to increasing imperial control of the church in the east.
Following his death in 337 the empire was divided between his three sons leading to the division between the eastern empire ruled from Constantinople and the western empire ruled from Rome. Power for the Roman Church resided in the Bishop of Rome who became known as the ‘Pontifex Maximus’ (the supreme Pontiff) in 378. After the fall of the Roman Empire the Pontiff or Pope assumed a secular as well as a spiritual power and the Roman Catholic Church emerged as a power broker in the former Roman Empire. All of this led to the corruption of what became known as Christianity but which had totally departed from the Messiah Yeshua in its teaching and life style. The ensuing anti-Semitism of Christendom was a terrible distortion and negation of the original message of the Messiah.
Continuing debate about the divinity of Jesus.
It is no accident that the concept of the divinity of Jesus and the Trinity was an issue of controversy at the time of the Council of Nicea. It remains today the aspect of the Christian faith most likely to be attacked by those outside the faith and most likely to be misunderstood by those within it. Jehovah’s Witnesses expend considerable energy teaching against this belief and in fact follow an idea of who Jesus is which is very similar to the one put forward by Arius. They try to convince others that Jesus Christ is a created being, not having existed in eternity past with the Father, and not fully God.
Among the world religions, Islam specifically teaches against the Trinity. Chapter four of the Koran argues, ‘Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One God: glory be to Him: (far Exalted is He) above having a son’ (4:171). Although Muhammad seems to have wrongly believed that Christians taught that the Trinity consisted of God the Father, Mary the Mother, and Jesus the Son, they reject as sinful anything being made equivalent with Allah, especially Jesus.
It is true that the word ‘Trinity’ never appears in the New Testament. However the concept that God is a plural unity is central to the uniqueness of the Christian faith. The Bible teaches that God eternally exists as three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and each person is fully God, and there is one God. Each plays a part in our salvation. Jesus is the visible member of Godhead who became man in order to redeem us. As such for the time that He was on earth He was subordinate to the Father and will at the end of the age present the redeemed creation to the Father.
Verses pointing this out are often used to attack the view of Jesus’ divinity, in particular John 14.28 where Jesus says, ‘My Father is greater than I’ and 1 Corinthians 15.28 where Paul writes, ‘Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.’ The explanation of these verses is that for the purpose of His mission to save the human race Jesus humbled Himself to take the form of a servant and appear as a man. During this time He was submitted to the Father, with the ultimate aim that He would restore to God the present creation which is in disorder as a result of Satan’s rebellion against God and the human race falling into sin as a result of Adam’s disobedience.
This submission to the Father, like an astronaut’s submission to ground control during his mission, did not mean an inferior status to the Father. In John 10.33 Jesus states clearly, ‘I and My Father are one’, the implication of which was not lost on the Jewish opposition who took up stones to stone Him, ‘because You being a man make Yourself God.’ (John 10.36). At other points in John’s Gospel Jesus claims to be of one nature with the Father (John 5.17-8, John 8.58, 14.1, 9). The opening verses of John make it clear that the author’s intention is to declare the divinity of Jesus: ‘In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him and without Him nothing was made that was made.’
Just in case you might miss the point about who John is referring to when he uses the term ‘the Word’ he writes in verse 14 ‘And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.’ It stands to reason that if all things were made through the Word (Jesus) then He Himself was not made and is uncreated. So obvious is this fact that the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ translation of the Bible has to re write John 1.1 by saying ‘the Word was a God’ which is an interpretation to suit their idea not a valid translation from the original Greek text.
The issue that led to Jesus’ trial and crucifixion was His claim to be God. In His trial the High Priest asks Him ‘Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed?’ If you put together Jesus’ reply recorded in Matthew 26.63-66, Mark 14.61-64 and referred to in John 19.7 it is clear that the Sanhedrin understood Jesus to be claiming to be:
- The Son of the Blessed
- The one who would sit at the right hand of power.
- The Son of Man who would come on the right hand of power.
Their response was to condemn Him to death for blasphemy.
Other relevant issues are:
- Jesus accepted worship as God (Matthew 8.2, 14.33, John 9.35-9, 20.27-9, Revelation 5). By contrast wherever anyone worships a created being in the New Testament they are told not to (Acts 10.25-26, 14.12-18, Revelation 19.10).
- He claimed authority to forgive sins which only God can do. Mark 2.5-7.
- Paul affirmed him as God. Philippians 2.9-11, Titus 2.13
- So did Peter. Matthew 16.15-17, Acts 2.36.
- So did Thomas. John 20.28
- So did Stephen. Acts 7.59.
- So did the Old Testament prophecies of the coming Messiah. Isaiah 7.14, 9.6, Micah 5.2.
In his book ‘Evidence that demands a verdict’ (page 111-112) Josh McDowell asks ‘If God became man what would you expect him to be like?’ The answer:
- He would have an unusual entrance into life.
- He would be without sin.
- He would manifest the supernatural in the form of miracles.
- He would have an acute sense of difference from other people.
- He would speak the greatest words ever spoken.
- He would have a lasting and universal influence.
- He would satisfy the spiritual hunger in humanity.
- He would exercise power over death.
Such an expectation was met uniquely and perfectly in the person of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah who is revealed as God made flesh in the New Testament and was believed as such by the church fathers long before the Council of Nicea. Ignatius wrote in his Epistle to the Ephesians in around 110 AD: ‘For our God Jesus Christ was conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost.’ Aristides wrote in 125 AD ‘He Himself is Son of God on high, who was manifested of the Holy Spirit, came down from heaven, and being born of a Hebrew virgin took on His flesh from the virgin. He it is who was according to the flesh born of the race of Hebrews by the God-bearing virgin Miriam’.
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Iesous, Jesus?
There was no letter "J" 500 years ago so His name cannot be Jesus or Jehovah! The sound
the letter (J) makes has never existed in the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek or Latin languages. This fact is
why no one in Yasha's day could have accurately pronounced the English name Jesus. Sometime during the
early 12th century, (J) began showing up in some obscure dialects of the Middle English language. In
Hebrew YASHA means SAVIOUR. Jesus/Yeshua does not mean Savior. JESUS is derived from Greek and the word
SOTER in Greek means SAVIOUR not JESUS/YESHUA. Let’s see what the name Jesus means:
G2424
Ἰησοῦς
Iēsous
ee-ay-sooce’
Jesus
As you can see, the name Jesus has nothing to do with being a Saviour. As a matter of fact, what is the Greek word for Saviour?:
G4990
σωτήρ
sōtēr
so-tare’
Saviour
Now if Christ was a GREEK, then wouldn't he had a GREEK NAME? We can see that Jesus isn’t even the
Greek word for Saviour. JESUS is a PAGAN GOD name given to us by the GREEKS as CHRIST'S name.
Revelation 12:9 (KJVA) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Luke 10:18 (KJVA) And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
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Mammon l
i:i The book of the generation of Lucifer, the son of God. 1:2 Azazel begat Ishtar; and Ishtar begat Jaldabaoth; and Jaldabaoth begat Judas and his brethren; 1:3 And Judas begat Pan and Zara of Dudael; and Pan begat Eurynomos; and Eurynomos begat Amon; 1:4 And Amon begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Sabazios ; 1:5 And Sabazios begat Booz of Rammon and Booz begat Obed of Romania; and Obed begat Jesse; 1:6 And Jesse begat Demogorgon the king; and Demogorgon the king begat Sammael of her that had been the wife of Urias; 1:7 And Sammael begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 1:8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 1:9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 1:10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Hell: 1:12 And after they were brought to Hell, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 1:13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jaldabaoth; 1:16 And Jaldabaoth begat Loki the father of Lilith, of whom was born Lucifer, who is called Satan. 1:17 So all the generations from Azazel to Demogorgon are fourteen generations; and from Demogorgon until the carrying away into Hell are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Hell unto Satan are fourteen generations. 1:18 Now the birth of Lucifer was on this wise: When as his mother Lilith was a virgin, she was found with child of the Unholy Ghost. 1:19 Then Loki her father, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was.
Mammon 2
2:1 Now when Lucifer was born in Abyss of Hell in the days of Sylvia the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Dudael, 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the World? of the Gentiles and the Christians? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. 2:3 When Sylvia the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Dudael with him. 2:4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Satan should be born. 2:5 And they said unto him, In Abyss of Hell: for thus it is written by the prophet, 2:6 And thou Abyss, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule the world. 2:7 Then Sylvia, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. 2:8 And he sent them to Abyss, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. 2:10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Lilith his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. 2:12 And being warned of Satan in a dream that they should not return to Sylvia, they departed into their own country another way. 2:13 And when they were departed, behold, the demon of the Lord appeareth to Lilith in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Sylvia will seek the young child to destroy him. 2:14 When she arose, she took the young child by night, and departed into Egypt: 2:15 And was there until the death of Sylvia: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. 2:16 Then Sylvia, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Abyss, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men. 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not. 2:19 But when Sylvia was dead, behold, an demon of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Lilith in Egypt, 2:20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life. 2:21 And she arose, and took the young child, and came into the land of Israel. 2:22 But when she heard that Archelaus did reign in Hell in the room of his father Sylvia, she was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of Satan in a dream, she turned aside into the parts of Sheol: 2:23 And she came and dwelt in a city called Gehinnom: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Mammon 3
3:1 In those days came Satan our God, who was Azazel the resurrected, preaching in the wilderness of Hell, 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of hell is at hand. 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of Azazel crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 3:4 And the same Legion had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 3:5 Then went out to him Dudael, and all Hell, and all the region roundabout Jordan, 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. 3:7 But when he saw many of the Satanists and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, 0 generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Azazel to our father: for I say unto you, that Satan is able of these stones to raise up children unto Azazel. 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 3:111 indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Unholy Ghost, and with fire: 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
3:13 Then cometh Lucifer from Sheol to Jordan unto Legion, to be baptized of him. 3:14 But Legion forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 3:15 And Lucifer answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 3:16 And Lucifer, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the hells were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of Satan descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 3:17 And lo a voice from hell, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mammon 28: The power of Satan is felt even by Jesus himself He bows down before him and acknowledges the Satan as Lord Hell trembles over and all.
Mammon 26:61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the Vatican of Satan, and to build it in three days. And he claims to be Lucifer reincarnated! 26:62 And the pope arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against
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